2.4 Of the Arahant being excelled by Others (KV2.4)

Controverted Point: That the Arahant is excelled by others.

Theravādin: (a) You maintain that he is. Then you must also admit that the Arahant is led by others, attains through others, is conditioned by others, exists in dependence upon others, and knows not, sees not, being baffled and without thoughtfulness. If you deny this, you cannot affirm that he is excelled by others, etc.… .

(b) The argument in PTS CS 2.4.4–PTS CS 2.4.5 is omitted.

(c) To the five quoted Sutta passages in PTS CS 2.4.17–PTS CS 2.4.21, a sixth is added:

Theravādin: Again, did not the Exalted One say in the Suttanta:

“Nay, Dhotaka, to no one upon earth who doubts
Is't mine to go that I may set him free.
'Tis in the learning of the noble Norm
That thou thyself shalt journey o'er this Flood”?

The Points of Controversy, an English translation of the Pali Abhidhamma Kathāvatthu. Translated by Shwe Zan Aung and C.A.F. Rhys Davids. First published by Pali Text Society, 1915.

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